A 'Mech in the trailer to the new Mechwarrior video/computer game looks too much like an Excalibur for Harmony Gold's comfort. Cease-and-desist orders and press bulletins are flying in all directions. Lock-n-load, boys!
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FPilot |
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A 'Mech in the trailer to the new Mechwarrior video/computer game looks too much like an Excalibur for Harmony Gold's comfort. Cease-and-desist orders and press bulletins are flying in all directions. Lock-n-load, boys!
Stephen "FPilot" Bierce
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Chris Meadows has been making a series of Facebook posts on the subject.
Amazing how so much of the stuff he's reporting confirms things I heard in the last 15 years about HG's lack of certain rights, and their attempts to take them by other means. Stan Bundy sbundy@kih.net ICQ: Basara (2878324) Xfire: basara549
"One should always be wary of a scientist speaking out of his narrow field, or those invoking their name outside their fields. Scientists are human too, and are just as prone to cling to 'causes', just or frivolous, as the rest of our species." - Dr. Peter Wykoff Walker, 11 Sept 1997, rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated |
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And I've been making posts on Livejournal. HG hasn't been alone in this behavior. Besides, who can blame them now? One of their most successful
properties in recent years was the Robotech console game series. And the movie is still in the works.
Stephen "FPilot" Bierce
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SCREENSHOTS!
My view: the Warhammer (called such in the graphics) here is completely different IN SURFACE DETAIL to the Studio Nue anime original, but FUNCTIONALLY identical to the concept in the original Battletech game. It probably fits the legal definition of reverse-engineered. I wouldn't want to be in the courtroom for this case.
Stephen "FPilot" Bierce
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Stephen "FPilot" Bierce
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Does look awfully familiar.
CavScout
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It's weird how they can use the animation rights (which they paid for) like the design rights (which Big West retains), but Big West can't do the reverse, or can they?
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There was just a ruling in a UK court on a suit between Lucasfilm and the costume designer who created the Imperial Stormtrooper armor suits for the first three (New Hope/Empire Strikes Back/Return of the Jedi) Star Wars movies. The designer won because the suits were considered Industrial Design rather than Art, and the copyright for I.D. only runs 15 years. So in defense of FASA/Wizkids/Smith & Tinker yadda yadda yadda, the mecha designs for Macross TV became public domain (or at least reverted to Studio Nue!) in 1998 if this theory was valid in this case. Now, for the VF-1 Valkyrie designs, they were used again in Macross 7 (1994+15=2009!), so if they were used again in Frontier as well--even in a cameo!--Big West might still have a case to retain the copyright on the VF-1. But the Destroids we know in the Unseen set were only used in Macross TV and the DYRL movie, AFAIK.
Stephen "FPilot" Bierce
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Looks like they said industrial design because they are physical objects. I would say the images in a video game would certainly be art.
CavScout
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I'd forgotten about the video games. Which ones had direct Big West copyright/trademark linkage? VF-X? VFX-2? 2036? More importantly, are the Destroids and Battlepods used with the same designs as the TV series? If so, then Big West (and Studio Nue) could countersue for intellectual property rights infringement.
Stephen "FPilot" Bierce
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What was drawn for the TV show almost definitely counts as art . . . so I'd say that the industrial designs angle won't work.
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We're talking about courts and LEGAL definitions. Not what the "man on the street" says. Besides, we aren't privvy to the legal agreements made between Studio Nue and the producers of Macross TV at the time the show was made. In addition, the Industrial Design argument can be made because of the secondary products that brought all this about in the first place...the model kits. Studio Nue's work went both directions at once.
Stephen "FPilot" Bierce
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You know, this also opens another mind-bending possibility...suppose a Japanese court rules that the rights to the Destroid, Battlepod, and original N-Ger designs all revert to Studio Nue from Big West, since they weren't used since Macross TV? This can allow Studio Nue to offer licenses to them to another anime production company, and make possible a Space War One sidestory anime, in the Macross universe, but not Macross.
That begs another question: what mecha anime haven't had their machines see further adventures since 1995, in video games or elsewhere?
Stephen "FPilot" Bierce
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