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Posts: 706 (June 3, 2008 07:00 AM) Commander |
You might think this is another horrible prank. But I sort of wish I wasn't joking. Straight from MEMO1DOMINION himself, Robotech: The Shadow Rising, is officially placed on "hiatus": 
Details will be surfacing soon. So stay tuned. I knew something bad was happening to the entire Shadow Rising project. (Could be a hoax)
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Posts: 73 (June 3, 2008 09:09 AM) Corporal |
You heard it here first! Twice-copied fan postings from a web site are now considered "official" confirmation that a company is or isn't doing
something. Stay tuned for details!
(BTW, MedMapGuy, you may want to re-read the thread. Memo wasn't the one reporting this, it was Xenophon. Memo was only speculating about it, and if you follow through to the original discussion on the Robotech board, Xenophon even does some backtracking on his original report.)
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Posts: 707 (June 3, 2008 01:53 PM) Commander |
Seems a little early for a bad April Fools joke, but it surprised me is all. Anyway, relegated headline as 'Rumors' until further notice. Xenophon
could be pulling our legs so lets wait and see.
According to Xenophon's June 1, 2008 message:
Yesterday Kevin McKeever spoke at A-Kon in Dallas. I was there in the room and he stated that at this point, absolutely nothing has happened with the movie other than that WB and Tobey Macguire's production company have acquired the rights. All that means is that they they now have the option of making the movie. To quote him "There is no script. There is no director. There are no actor. There is no budget" etc. There is no movie whatsoever as of this time. That does not mean that some guy in WB somewhere is not doing something to make these things happen, but I'd guess you'd have to get some sources over at WB to find that out. I asked him what rights they'd gotten and he basically said everything. They can make a film set in any time period about any subject whatsoever. He said "They can make a film about the Dana Barbie dolls if they want" by way of example. So this film we're talking about could be just about anything. Furthermore, it sounds like it's pretty flexible as to how WB "interprets" the canon. McKeever also said that the next animated film is "on hiatus" because WB doesn't want what HG is making to get in the way of the live-action. So the live-action has to come first before we see The Shadow Rising film. Suck. However, he did say production had started, but then he said how far it had gotten was classified. The movie definitely will happen (provided WB doesn't just keep stalling for 10 years or something). Anyway it was really cool, and everybody who asked a question got a prize. He gave out some original cells from Robotech (not copies, not replicas, the real thing), some Robotech polo shirts, and some Veritechs (can't remember what model though).
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Posts: 74 (June 3, 2008 04:37 PM) Corporal |
Yes, I saw that, including the part where Xenphon said, "So the live-action has to come first before we see The Shadow Rising film."
Then I scrolled down to his other post, which said, "Ok, to be clear, he didn't categorically state that the animation will not happen until the live-action has come out." Not exactly consistent information and nothing I'd stick the label "official" on. Tommy and Kevin are going to be on Space Station Liberty on Thursday night, you can ask them yourself what's up. I have to ask, Medmapguy, why are you so anxious to spread the slightest hint of bad news when it comes to Robotech and Harmony Gold? |
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Posts: 708 (June 3, 2008 07:22 PM) Commander |
I read the topic and I was going to put in those quotes, but I decided to wait until MEMO or someone from HG comes in and give the official word. The fact
that the mods haven't deleted or denied these posts means that there's some truth to them (especially considering how efficient they are when it comes
to things like this). Here's hoping the next SSL episode clears it up.
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Posts: 1318 (June 4, 2008 05:04 AM) |
The fact that the mods haven't deleted or denied these posts means that there's some truth to them (especially considering how efficient they are when it comes to things like this). Huh?
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Posts: 710 (June 4, 2008 05:34 AM) Commander |
Whoever this Xenophon is, he's sure worried for some fans on Robotech.com. Wonder what Kevin McKeever will do since he was quoted by the ol' guy.
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Posts: 711 (June 6, 2008 04:35 AM) Commander |
Since Chris Meadows doesn't care enough to post what happen on his latest Space Station Liberty talkcast on this
forum, this is what happened:
Peace out. Until Harmony Gold announces something again.
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Posts: 757 (June 6, 2008 05:02 AM) Commander |
What he said was referring to the animation process as being "on hiatus," using the term in the industry sense of "not active right now because it's waiting on something else" as opposed to the consumer sense of "indefinitely cancelled."Yeah, and that's what Hasbro said when they killed the 3 3/4" JOE line in favor of "Sigma 6" a few years back. If the "animation process" is on "hiatus" because it's "waiting on something else," what then, is this "something else"? I don't know. Whenever someone tells me something is "on hiatus," I tend to assume the worst. It's better industry speak than flat-out saying it's canceled, but only because it leaves the option on the table to continue with production. ~Pap.
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Posts: 712 (June 6, 2008 05:27 AM) Commander |
A lot of people complain about Hasbro's stuff from what I hear (Starwars toyline for example). I'm not a big toy guy, but I assume GI Joe is coming
back in a big way with the movie coming out...
*shudders*
At least Sienna Miller's hot as the Baroness... I think. Dear Lord. I wonder how they'd translate Robotech... since G.I.'s clearly taking the
X-men 'tight black suit of realism' route.
But what do you think about Dragon Ball? Yikes. If Speed Racer made one mistake, it stayed too close to the source, but this one looks a little
interesting... Like a souped up version of Harry Potter or something.
Anyway, in my honest opinion, Kevin's making absolutely no sense saying the "animation process is on hiatus". That's actually the first time I've heard it used that way for in the production of an *ahem* animated movie. But whatever. "It's in development in Harmony Gold", which could mean its back in pre-production and being retooled.
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Posts: 758 (June 6, 2008 06:13 AM) Commander |
medmapguy: The less said about the upcoming JOE flick, the better, I think. Hasbro's gamble on Transformers paid off; I don't think they're going
to be as lucky with JOE.
I would tend to suspect that "Shadow Rising" may, indeed, be in for a retooling if "the animation is on hiatus." I mean, otherwise, what work can continue? Storyboarding & Pre-production should have been done if the project was already being animated -- once animation starts, I'd think it would be hard to go back for some major overhauls. ~Pap.
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Posts: 713 (June 6, 2008 06:42 AM) Commander |
Hasbro's gamble on Transformers paid off; I don't think they're going to be as lucky with JOE.2009 is definitely setting itself up to be a banner year for Hasbro. I was quite surprised how quickly they're pushing for the Transformers sequel, actually. Michael Bay shaved off a lot of time finishing the scripts during the writer's strike. I think it has a chance of surpassing the 200 mil mark, though the title seems to say it all: http://chud.com/articles/articles/15026/1/TRANSFORMERS-2-TITLE-IS-ALMOST-ASTONISHINGLY-BAD/Page1.html Stephen Sommers (director of G.I. Joe)... at least he's got the Mummy franchise. I guess he could crank out a decent camp film befitting G.I. Joe "mythos" I suppose. (And maybe if they're both hits, they can come out with Transformers vs. G.I. Joe crossover film and toyline for a quick cash-in) I'm still wondering how Warner Brothers would be able to tie-in Shadow Rising to any kind of major marketing push alongside the Live Action Movie. For the new Batman flick, they got the highly anticipated animated prequel Gotham Knight. For Speed Racer (despite failing in the box office domestically as well as internationally)... at least they got... this done: Where would Shadow Rising fit, I wonder...
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Posts: 759 (June 6, 2008 07:18 AM) Commander |
Eh, the first thing I thought of when I saw the TF2 title was: "They're putting The Fallen in there?! COOL!" I mean, what could be better than a
giant, evil robot... ON FIRE!! Oh, how I wish so very much this were the case. Still, the spoilers do sound interesting -- especially given the title.
I'll admit, I loved the first film, so I'm probably going to gush wildly over the second one.
Re: JOE: The problem is that they seem to be ignoring the mythos. Sure, they've got the Storm Shadow / Snake Eyes stuff in there... but then they've gone and completely rewritten Cobra Commander. Everything I've seen about the flick says "Street Fighter" to me. Not that this will most definitely be the case -- trailers can do wonders. I hated the TF designs until I saw them in action in the trailer, so I'm hoping that the JOE trailer will do the same. RE: tie-ins: Until WB starts working on the film, I can't really see there being any link to SR. If the live action film hasn't started pre-production yet and the animation project is on "hiatus," what's to tie in? Unless, you know, HGUSA & WB have been pulling a fast one on us and they're further along in production (or filming) than they let on. Why not push "Robotech" along-side Transformers 2? It could be, like, the summer of giant robots or something. ^_^ ~Pap.
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Posts: 714 (June 6, 2008 07:57 AM) Commander |
Pap man, be clearer with your references next time! Is this what you mean? What the hell are the Fallen anyway?
That could be Ironhide. Hehe.
As far as I know, Michael Bay was pretty proud that he kept CG shots below cost (thanks to Spielberg who co-produced the film). This film is, as Bay
keeps saying, going to have more robots. He's going all out on this one, so its going to be even more mindless than ever before. I also heard stuff
about some Aircraft Carrier coming into play... Now THAT is
going to be interesting. (Imagine the toy for that!). Funny thing though, I hear some people say you should watch Transformers only once, or you'll
"ruin" the experience. I find that kind of funny, and its sort of true with what's coming out today. I really enjoyed Indiana Jones despite
its outlandish crap, but I wonder if I can say the same in a second viewing.
As for G.I. Joe, you're right. Doesn't Dennis Quaid look a little... Jean Claude Van Dam-ish? And how could you rewrite a classic like Cobra Commander? What? They're turning him into some terrorist guy to make it more topical or something? I haven't read the previews. Don't judge the film by its trailer though. Maybe it'll be made to look like Spy-Kids for grown-ups or something. Anyway, its very possible Warner Brothers and Harmony Gold have something already ready for the upcoming Summer Conventions, but its hard to determine how valid Kevin's statement earlier comments were. No director, no anything? If they did have something done, we'd have seen set photos or casting news by now. Transformers 2 itself has had script leaks and photos and set reports already. Heck, even a remake of Frank Herbert's classic Dune (which I only heard of now) has already announced a possible writer. Robotech the live action, it would seem, is still definitely in the drawing board. So no giant robot match-up in 2009. So what can fans expect on that year, if it won't be Shadow Rising? The original Robotech series in Blu-ray? Whoopee...
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Posts: 236 (June 6, 2008 12:49 PM) 2nd Lieutenant |
Cobra was always a terrorist organization.
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Posts: 715 (June 6, 2008 03:37 PM) Commander |
More like... transforming Cobra into a "topical" terrorist group. Changing the setting and stuff like that, like what happened with Iron Man and the
first Transformers movies.
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Posts: 2065 (June 6, 2008 04:15 PM) |
Yeah - Tony Stark was dealing with a "Normal" terrorist organization - at least until we meet the owner of the "Ten Rings" in the next
movie.....
It went right over my head at first, because I never considered that the Mandarin would be connected to such an uncivilized bunch of ruffians. It was when I started thinking of how they could AFFORD to buy Stark weaponry from Stane, that it finally clicked. Hell, we could get into the GI Joe Movie, and find out the "advertised" CC is actually a pawn of the real one (face shields do wonder for anonymity). You let some guy without the helmet play at being CC, for example, and tell him what to do via implants - if he goes too far, you trigger the explosives in the implants. (Am I just evil, or is it the years of playing Midnight Live-action Paranoia at Marcon showing through?) Stan Bundy sbundy@kih.net ICQ: Basara (2878324) Xfire: basara549
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Posts: 2066 (June 6, 2008 04:20 PM) |
Oh, and the writer at chud.com needs to get some lessons in titles.
The Title for the current Indiana Jones film ROCKS IMO; then again, the SF gaming group that I'm a player in ALWAYS ends up with a Crystal Skull as part of at least one character's backstory (thank you, Central Casting's character background books), so I may be a little prejudiced. Stan Bundy sbundy@kih.net ICQ: Basara (2878324) Xfire: basara549
"One should always be wary of a scientist speaking out of his narrow field, or those invoking their name outside their fields. Scientists are human too, and are just as prone to cling to 'causes', just or frivolous, as the rest of our species." - Dr. Peter Wykoff Walker, 11 Sept 1997, rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated |
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Posts: 716 (June 6, 2008 05:05 PM) Commander |
Agreed. I've got no qualms with the Crystal title. It's pretty much in line with the Saturday
adventure matinee stuff Lucas and Spielberg based this series on.
As for the Cobra Commander thing, I can't say much about that. Were they turning him into some kind of suave, megalomaniac ala most James Bond villains? I doubt the general audience would take the idea of a bumbling over-the-top terrorist like the original CC seriously! Anyway, got some intereting tidbits from MEMO, which confirmed some of my suspicions: _________________________________________________________________________________________ LOTS OF MENTIONING OF BATMAN LAM AND ITS ANIMATED SERIES. LIKE GOTHAM KNIGHTS. ALSO, THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE UPDATED DATE CHANGES LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO IRONMAN. FROM GOING FROM A VIETNAM ERA WAR TO A AFGHAN WAR SETTING. THAT ROBOTECH WILL TAKE THE SAME COURSE. ESPECIALLY THE DATE OF 2009 THAT WILL COME AND PASS. WHERE THE STORY WILL HOLD TRU TO THE SOUL OF ROBOTECH, JUST DATES AND SETTING ARE THINGS THAT WILL BE MOVED. AND BYE BYE TO TEH OLD VERITECH. _________________________________________________________________________________________ I wonder how the face of the global war on terror will be on 2012 onwards (especially when major policies shift when the American's presidency changes). Still, I wonder how the audience would react to seeing fifty foot Caucasians terrorizing little Afghan villages. 
Would Starscream cameo as a Valkyrie?
Anyway, Hermann2 got around to summing up the entire Space Station Liberty show. Here are the
details:
_________________________________________________________________________________________ 1) "hiatus" is an industry term that means that the animation is waiting for other sections to be completed. When this was said at A-Kon, it was misinterpreted by those of us to mean the show was on hold. That is not the case. 2) While HG did make an error say that the RLAM will NOT have any affect on RTSR, RTSR is coming. It has not been canceled or held back due to WB. HG is working with the WB on setting up their production schedule to work with the release of the RLAM. There is a there is a VERY unlikely potential for RTSR to be completed and held until will work with WB, but this possibility is SO remote that no one believes it will happen because of the amount of work WB and HG is putting into timing the releases to compliment one and other. 3) The 2009 release that was speculated at by one of HG's staff was just that, speculation and was in NO way an official release date. While we fans have latched on to it as if it were official, that was never the case. It was being given as an example of how quickly it was POSSIBLE to be done, but not an actual estimate. (Hence it's not being delayed because there never was an official release date and therefor it's not being delayed to please WB) 4) The reasons behind HG's lack of correction on this board was that no one expected the misunderstanding. So, when it comes to this board, HG is only doing press releases unless misunderstandings like this happen and then they will address them in the most expeditious manner (which is NOT posting on this board, but making use of things like SSL where they can get more immediate feed back). 5) Toynami has a big surprise coming for us, but HG wont say anything more until Toynami is ready to release their official announcement. 6) We are going to see a rather large marketing scheme come around. When, no one is sure yet. Again, this is being worked out between HG and WB so that it will compliment both the RLAM and RTSR. These are the important points... there were other things discussed, but these are the ones that have gotten people heated up. _________________________________________________________________________________________
Here's hoping that Toynami got a new Quality Assurance guy. God knows they need one. Still, if
we're go through the process of elimination, they've already made toys for the:
Veritech Valkyrie
Cyclone (announced but not released, so not "the surprise") Alpha/Shadow Fighter Beta Fighter So where does that leave us? A new line of Valkyries? Or what... a real freakin' Hovertank? Hah! We'll have to wait and see. As for the "large marketing scheme", what would they market? Shadow Rising on Blu-ray? Robotech on Blu-ray for 2009? I guess that's calls for celebration... Maybe a large promo to go with the original 85 episodes? A real tribute for the original show before they announce/release the movie version? I'd buy into that. According to a fairly recent interview with Tommy Yune on RTUCN: WD: Do you have any recent plan to publish a new comic series? If so, which period of the timeline will it belong to? TY: We are definitely working on developing new stories for comics. We understand that there are many fans who would love to see us revisit the Macross Saga or expand on the Shadow Chronicles, so it will be a challenging decision of which one to pursue first. Going back to Macross, eh? Hmm... Wonder if we'll finally be able to know the story about cannon fodder guy #1?
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Posts: 760 (June 14, 2008 10:01 AM) Commander |
Gone for a while, but I'm back now. ^_^
Re: The Fallen: Yep. That's the guy. I so very much want to see Mr. Flamey on the big-screen, but the logical answer to who "the fallen" refers to is Megatron. *sigh* Re: Cobra Commander & The JOE movie: Last I heard - which, admittingly was a while back - was that they were setting CC up to be Hawk's (or Dukes) childhood friend "Rex." He will be played by the teen from "Third Rock from the Sun." Now, I'll buy the comic's "used car" salesman CC who had connections to, well, everyone and I'll even buy the snake-man from the 'toon, but I'm not sold on the whole "childhood friend" angle. It just doesn't jive with me. Re: Memo's "byebye old veritech" comment: We know it's going to happen, but that doesn't make me like the idea any less. The VF-1 is iconic. It's what everyone will instantly recognize in relation to Robotech. Yes, it's logical to assume that they're going to update it... but my question is: will it work if it's some derivative of the F-22 or something like that? Will it work as "Robotech"? I don't know. I'm all for some new giant robot sexiness, but I have to wonder: if we change the VF-1 and we (logically) change the SDF-01 and we change the Zentraedi (not rumored, but likely - it's hollywood after all) -- what part remains "Robotech"? Re: Aintitcool Link: That's actually the best news I've heard about the RT film. Get the guy from Empire behind the flick, and you stand a chance of putting out a good movie. ~Pap. (Quick post: apologies for any incoherent ramblings)
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