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Yeah, I want to see #6 & 7 from the other subber. The one for the #7 you just posted appeared to be unaware of 25 years of established Macross nomenclature ("New Union Army" instead of "New UN Army", etc.)

I noticed a few more things...

1. The one Zentran(?) cyborg we see appeared to have a ring similar to the gems in Sheryl's earrings; and when he messed with it, the Vajra came in. Similarly, Aldo and the mystery pilot HEARD Sheryl (presumably via the earring). This was no mere synching the combat to the music back on Frontier - those gems appear to actually be capable of realtime FTL communications - faster than even the fold communications being used, that were supposed to be experimental. Are we seeing another relic of the Protoculture in action, perhaps something that was cutting edge when it fell (given the comments on how the limits of the old and new human civilizations would be defined by fold technology's shortcomings in episode 6)?

2. The crack by the helmsman over the Lt's nausea was cute, but whether there's any accidental truth to it is a bit doubtful (though possible). A lot of people get sick after-action, after they "see the elephant" for the first time.

3. Something's up with Ranka. Was I the only one to notice something shifting underneath her dress in the scene before she yelled to Sheryl? And, that she continued to hold her stomach afterward, while singing? It would appear that she's been "exposed" to something, from earlier episodes.

4. Lastly... Our new mystery person and his mecha. It (And the ones we see with it) bear striking resemblence to those of the Varauta - right down to the markings. Specifically, the two different-sized, and linked, circles, seen behind the head in its Battroid mode, and just below and aft of the cockpit in its aircraft mode. Add in previous links (the Varauta of 7 and the Anti-UN of Zero shared other markings, perhaps because the scientific minds behind the anti-UN forces in Zero appeared to be the most knowledgable people on Earth of the Protoculture - until their deaths), and we start seeing a pattern. Perhaps those who were the acolytes of those that died in Zero, that managed to survive Boldolza, positioned themselves to be with the fleets that would get them closest to "things that Man was not meant to relearn". We see how disastrous it was for the 13th deep space fleet, in 7 - and how both the 35th & 37th fleets payed dearly for it in 2044-2046.

Now, perhaps, 13 years later, the 21st & 25th fleets are facing yet another monstrous threat - that appears to monsters of Man's creation once more - or did you all not notice that when the "captive" Vajra heard the music, one could see a HUMAN shaped light in it.

Just because the 7 ultimate bioweapon "Elves/Evil" were possessed by other-dimensional energy beings to become the Protodevlin, does not mean that there weren't lesser bioweapons being (or already) developed, in power between the Zentran and the Elves; in fact, logic would almost dictate it. If those fell into the wrong hands before, during or after the redemption of the surviving Protodevlin, one can only imagine the horrors that could be inflicted.

After all, we have a pattern of anti-Culture forces already, using technology of Earth with "new" technology almost certainly recovered from the Protoculture. The power armors fought by Isamu in Plus; The mecha of the Varauta; mecha VERY similar to the Varauta's but SUPPOSEDLY unrelated, in the hands of terrorists and renegades in the various Macross games (that even now are being tied more and more into canon by the VB-6 in Frontier); now, the culmination of the pattern in Macross Frontier. Not only is there a new menace, they've got deep roots hidden within the human fleets already. As if Macross wasn't already riddled with concepts stolen from Illuminati conspiracy theory.

Much as I saw Southern Cross parallels in Macross II, I am now seeing them in Frontier - and they are linking up with all previous Macross to produce a disturbing pattern. Are the Vajra purely weapons, or do they have a human component - and if so, was that component a willing volunteer? Were the casualties from years before KIA, or kidnaped for unspeakably dark purposes? If it was simply an alien attack, would there have been such a need to cover it up (consider the efforts made to hide this sort of abduction in SDC:SC and Macross 7).

(one can also consider that, the way the Official chronology is going, it is becoming more and more possible for Macross II to be re-integrated into continuity in the future, with all the colony ships and worlds too far out, or too concerned for their own safety, to respond to the attack on Earth - even the Destroids we see on the Macross vessel of Frontier look to be a hybrid of Zero & II designs)

So, which are you, Cav?