Hardcore Debates Archive http://disciplesofzor.com/forums/18 en-us Copyright 2006, Kickapps feeds@kickapps.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@kickapps.com (WebMaster) Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:51:52 GMT Kickapps Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://kickapps.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://kickapps.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://kickapps.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Early era Alpha (Legios)? ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2164/t/Early-era-Alpha-Legios-.html
We can throw in RPG's VF-1X to the fray.

OR Vector art from Mospeada (looks to 'Bioroid-ish' to me).

With even RRG speculated early Alphas sans the sensor pod.

However, some've speculated that current Alphas (I / H / Z)could've be introduced in early 2030's.

While searching google image directory, look at what I found:





If we take a good look closely, the Alpha (legios) indeed have one special addition, an additional missile rack (visible in both battloid & fighter form).

I've speculated that this Alpha could be early-Gen Alpha (circa 2020's) whereby it... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Protoculture) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2164 Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:11:06 PST <![CDATA[ Identify these ancient Robotech ships -- ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2167/t/Identify-these-ancient-Robotech-ships-.html Khyron's Revenge
Gloval: Exedore?
Exedore: I have finished my research on the relationship between Protoculture and the Zentreadi. (pause) They were developed by the Robotech Masters for the sole purpose of fighting.
Miriya: Hum-- Your saying that other beings created our race through Protoculture?
Exedore: Uh, um huh-- That's correct.
Gloval: It is as I thought. Correct me if I'm wrong, Exedore. Over 500,000 years ago that race discovered and developed Protoculture. It was extremely proud of its advanced and powerful civilization. Just after discovering Robotechnology, they decided to develop an intergalactic police force to protect themselves from any hostile alien lifeforms. Through protogenetic engineering a race of giants were created solely for the purpose of fighting to keep the peace.
Exedore: But the newly created race of giants had ideas of their own.
Gloval: Incorrect programming combined... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (rtsurfer) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2167 Sat, 10 Apr 2004 12:59:05 PST <![CDATA[ Scene comparison between Robotech and Southern Cross ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2171/t/Scene-comparison-between-Robotech-and-Southern-Cross.html
finally got my copy of SDC: Southern Cross yesterday and have watched a little over half of it. Wanted to do a scene comparison because I have been arguing with Tommy about his depiction of Leonard. He claims that Claude Leon and Anatole Leonard are basically the same character and that their situations were the same (ie - Because Leon should have opened negotiations...Leonard should have done the same). I think that is a load of horse puckey!

So....I figured this would be best if it were in Hardcore instead of Robotech or Robotech's Roots.

Robotech - Eps. #48 Deja Vu (UEF HQ, Supreme Commder's Office)

General Leonard: I dont care if he is human or android, all I know is that your investigation has been fruitless.... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Brooklyn Red Leg) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2171 Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:55:57 PST <![CDATA[ Finally found the ML-3 Forklift in Southern Cross..... ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2170/t/Finally-found-the-ML-3-Forklift-in-Southern-Cross-.html Sentinels equipment makes an appearance. Only one problem....it is a 3 second clip in eps. #23 Genesis that was cut from Robotech's eps. #60 Catastrophe. The scene shows two vehicles...one unmmaned one parked next to a Sylphide (obviously getting ready to load missiles onto its hardpoints) and another that passes in front of the camera with a driver.

Its amazing how many small things were cut from Robotech due to....I guess....time constraints.
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]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Brooklyn Red Leg) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2170 Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:47:20 PST <![CDATA[ some questions about Jupiter Group, sdf-4, and the moon base ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2168/t/some-questions-about-Jupiter-Group-sdf-4-and-the-moon-base.html
in the adaption, lancer seems to think that the rusted out garfish is the sdf-3. then the old deserters in the ship claim to have fought against the masters. this makes sense, since the deserters, and their ship, are old. even though it's one of the same types of ship bernard initally arrived on earth with, and they sell the same kind of guns the newgen crew currently use, and none of these designs were ever seen in the robotech masters... these things can be rationalized away. but an insignia on the ship says mars base. this does not make sense. are these discrepancies in the cartoon?

a few episodes later, jupiter... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (foo) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2168 Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:12:59 PST <![CDATA[ "REF" Hovertank in 'Rolling Thunder' comic #2 (Rob ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2174/t/-quot-REF-quot-Hovertank-in-Rolling-Thunder-comic-2-Rob.html
I was looking at what looked like what was a modified Logan of some type (non-transformable version probably) and noticed that there is one of the "new" REF Hovertanks in the motorpool area. I almost didnt recognize it until it dawned on me that the shape was different than that of the Spartas. Kudos to Fred Perry!

I wonder if there is a way that 'Rolling Thunder' could be incorporated as canon retroactively....:rollin

(Images scanned by me...but hosted by rtsurfer)

feeds@kickapps.com (Brooklyn Red Leg) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2174 Tue, 09 Mar 2004 17:11:28 PST <![CDATA[ How solid and tall is the Regis? ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2179/t/How-solid-and-tall-is-the-Regis-.html The Big Apple


Dark Finale


Symphony of Light
feeds@kickapps.com (rtsurfer) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2179 Mon, 01 Mar 2004 23:40:46 PST <![CDATA[ SDF-2 ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2177/t/SDF-2.html
I just want to hear your theories, comments and opinions about the SDF-2


see ya!

DraQ

]]> feeds@kickapps.com (DraQ88) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2177 Mon, 01 Mar 2004 23:28:01 PST <![CDATA[ Do Cyclones have enhanced strength. ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2178/t/Do-Cyclones-have-enhanced-strength-.html Cyclone Battle effectiveness
One of the points brought up during the debate is that a power enhanced slap could kill a person. What Im wondering is does a Cyclone increase a riders strength in his arms. The reason I ask is that the forearm guards, which are mounted on the wheels in bike mode, dont appear to be attached to the upper arm, shoulder or chest portion of the Cyclone in armour mode.
VR-38
VR-41
If a Cyclone does increase a riders... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (hatecomputers) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2178 Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:24:58 PST <![CDATA[ Hovertank in New Generation ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2182/t/Hovertank-in-New-Generation.html
Anyone saw that too, or remember what this guy said?

Any pictures of that episode?

If there was Zentraedi language in Southern Cross, why not a hovertank in New Generation, even more knowing the Spartas (hovertank) was initially intended for Mospeada.

Please, pictures! ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Daidalus SDF 1) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2182 Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:16:27 PST <![CDATA[ Shrewfield transformable?! ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2183/t/Shrewfield-transformable-.html
-Ginrai ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (ginrai) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2183 Tue, 24 Feb 2004 04:14:06 PST <![CDATA[ Robotech Art 3 VTOL ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2175/t/Robotech-Art-3-VTOL.html
-Ginrai ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (ginrai) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2175 Tue, 24 Feb 2004 03:42:02 PST <![CDATA[ ASC RDF ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2166/t/ASC-RDF.html feeds@kickapps.com (Daidalus SDF 1) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2166 Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:26:21 PST <![CDATA[ who is in charge of the REF? ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2185/t/who-is-in-charge-of-the-REF-.html feeds@kickapps.com (Daidalus SDF 1) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2185 Tue, 10 Feb 2004 10:12:34 PST <![CDATA[ REF Reclamation Fleet size ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2165/t/REF-Reclamation-Fleet-size.html
1st Reclamation Fleet, September 2038
3x Ikazuchi Battlecruisers
25x Garfish Cruisers
Numerous Horizon Dropships

2nd Reclamation Fleet, September 2042
2x Ikazuchi Battlecruisers
4x Garfish Cruisers
10x Horizon Dropships

3rd Reclamation Fleet, July 2044
8x Neutron S Missiles
1x Izumo Battleship
12x Shadow Ikazuchi Battlecruisers
21x Shadow Garfish Cruisers
7x Shadow Horizon Dropships
33x Horizon Dropships

The methodology for calculating these minimum fleet numbers is provided in the article along with more likely sizes of each of the fleets and screen captures of every scene with REF Reclamation Forces capital ships.... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (olsonk) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2165 Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:09:47 PST <![CDATA[ Hey! Party in RT Chatroom! ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2189/t/Hey-Party-in-RT-Chatroom-.html :)

MikeBangle ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (MikeBangle) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2189 Fri, 06 Feb 2004 23:01:44 PST <![CDATA[ Okay, let's chat! ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2190/t/Okay-let-s-chat-.html
Anyone?

MikeBangle ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (MikeBangle) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2190 Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:16:49 PST <![CDATA[ Information about the Condor..... ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2173/t/Information-about-the-Condor-.html
Hello.

In message "Mospeada Condor Armo-Fighter",
David Farris wrote...
>Hello,
>
>I apologize for contacting you and asking this...I
>realise that you may not be able to aid me.
>
>I am trying to track down information concerning the
>Mospeada Condor Armo-Fighter. Mospeada made an
>appearance on United States television some 20 odd
>years ago (albeit in a slightly altered form
>storywise). Since then, there has been a decent amount
>of interest in the series and its mecha.
>
>I am trying to settle a dispute over whether or not
>the Condor is fully transformable and where exactly
>the pilot's cockpit is located.... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Brooklyn Red Leg) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2173 Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:59:32 PST <![CDATA[ The uniqueness of the SDF-1 main cannon revisited. ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2191/t/The-uniqueness-of-the-SDF-1-main-cannon-revisited-.html feeds@kickapps.com (Daidalus SDF 1) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2191 Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:15:05 PST <![CDATA[ is somewhere mentioned in the series that... ]]> http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2192/t/is-somewhere-mentioned-in-the-series-that-.html feeds@kickapps.com (Daidalus SDF 1) http://disciplesofzor.com/topic/2192 Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:59:33 PST